Tuesday, November 28, 2006

Stair master

Why do people walk up and down escalators? When I get off the metro and I'm not in a rush, I like to enjoy my escalator experience. And it's not as if most people are running down; they just casually walk. So why not just stand there and take a look around you? Take a breath and don't focus so much on where you're going (most probably to work). You'll spend enough time thinking about it while you're there for most of your day.

But that was just a thought I had this morning. Now on to the real stuff.

A & I are trying to sell his 1br apartment and buy a 2br. As is quite obvious, living in a 2br apartment gives us more flexibility in regards to our long-term plans in DC and provides a bit more comfort. We'd like to move once and stay there for as long as possible, so the long-term plan includes the next few years when A will be focusing on writing his dissertation, and X number of years after that, when kids slowly come into the picture. So the total number of years can be five or seven or more, who knows at this point? (Since when did 5 years constitute "long term planning"?)

In short, we're looking for an apartment that will accomodate us and at least one kid, perhaps two, before we have to start thinking about finding a bigger place. But that's the ideal-- it seems like most people in our community are looking for that these days.

We've seen a few apartments so far. Some of our criteria include the following:

- 2 bedrooms;
- more than 1 bathroom;
- within the areas of Foggy Bottom, Dupont (south of the circle), and Georgetown, to faciliate a >-1 mile walk to synagogue every week;
- access to the metro, preferably the orange/blue lines;
- a balcony;
- a decent size kitchen ("decent" = something bigger then the kitchen I have now. I don't think that's asking for too much);
- if in a building, location on a low floor.

There are others, but these are what's important.

So far, we haven't seen anything that's perfect, but that's to be expected. The one apartment that is really intriguing is a 2br apartment. This apartment has two MASTER bedrooms and it comes with a parking spot. Everything else should just fall by the wayside considering it's difficult to find a 2br apartment with a decent size 2nd bedroom. Here you have two master-size bedrooms! Which means that there's no doubt there would be space for an office/study now, and one or two kids down the road. That should be perfect, right?

Well, perhaps. Except the apartment is on the 8th floor. Why does that matter? Walking up and down 8 flights of steps, at least 4 or 5 times every week in the span of 25 hours (ie, Shabbat), is tough. And I think I would be willing to suck it up, except for the fact that if we're planning on having kids at some point while living in this apartment, it would require using the steps and carrying a baby, stroller, and baby bag all at the same time. I dont plan on being that mother who stays cooped up in the house every weekend unless the baby is sleeping. I'd like to go to synagogue, go out for meals, and see my friends as much as possible-- and I know it's possible, because every week I see parents coming to synagogue with their newborns, so why can't I?

It's a tough call. This apartment is the only one we've seen so far that provides the stability that a large second bedroom provides to a couple wanting at some point to have a family and is within our price range.

Perhaps there are arrangements we could work out with the building, where we would be able to store the stroller downstairs from Friday night-Saturday night. Climbing those stairs every week would certainly get me into shape as well. But would living on such a high floor deter our friends (with or without kids) from accepting dinner invitations? Would it deter lazy ol' me from going to synagogue as often as I do now? Would it become more of a hassle or would we really appreciate having the space and knowing that we don't have to move for perhaps even more years than we first anticipated? What would you do?

6 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's an interesting dilema. One the one hand, I think of what my sister told me when Michael and I were looking at places on higher floors--"It's only 5/6/7 floors up once a week". On the other hand, there is "Shoshana's First Law of Shomer Shabbat--Shomer Shabbat Jews should n ot live above the 6th floor. (There is a corollary-The floor number can be changed if the building entrance is above the first floor).

Ask yourself how you felt, and what you heard from other's, when climbing up to Lydia's first apartment. This is not to deter you in any way, for I sure know what it's like to try to find a place, but I think it is a good benchmark of what you can expect.

9:32 PM  
Blogger David said...

I disagree with Shoshana in one respect: I believe that the line between significant and insignificant stairs is much lower: perhaps at the third floor.

I don't see a difference between climbing 4 flights of stairs and climbing 8 flights - either way, people who are out-of-shape or have trouble with stairs for any reason will have trouble, and most people will kvetch a little bit. Then again, people kvetch at some pretty silly things (i.e. some folks act like crossing Wisconsin Ave. is like crossing the Rubicon...)

So if it were me, I would either commit to being on a truly *low* floor ( < 3) or accept whatever floor the right place is on, and expect to host more dinners than lunches.

One other thing to check: there are partially disabled folks who have a psak to use elevators on Shabbat. This is easier if the elevator is regularly busy. If it isn't, the psak gets harder to follow

10:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Being a single person in good health, I have no problem with coming to see you on the 8th floor on Shabbat. However, given that I plan to a. meet someone, b. get married, and c. have kid(s), I can't say that I will feel the same after c occurs.

But, if you (and guests:) can park strollers on the ground floor temporarily, then I don't see a problem with the 8th floor. People do it all over NY all the time. We're just spoiled in DC (or in Baltimore, where I think most complexes don't exceed 2 stories).

ggmg

4:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking as someone who _always_ ran up the escalators the answer is simple - I'm usually running late and odn't want to miss a train by 30 seconds. If I'm going home, then I want to be home, not trapped in the subway. Transit time to me is wasted time - I'm neither at work or at home. My goal is usually to minimize it. (Also it's good exercise going up).

As for apartment hunting, I've always thought that the floor was fairly irrelevant for young and/or single people because while people may complain, they're not going to actually not come over to your place if you live on the 6th, 8th, or 11th floor. However kids change that - I honestly can't imagine living on the 8th floor with a newborn on shabbat and trying to get in and out. If you're making a long term commitment, then keep waiting - your dream apartment may not exist, but a very good one may show up soon.

11:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is some food for thought, Lady Frog:
1. when the mrs. and i got hitched we lived on the ninth floor on F Street between 21st and 20th. Meaning it was 25 minutes by foot from Kesher. And guess what, people came for meals. Even Ziggy S. came and he was about 3 -5 months old (of course his dad Cool Papa is a weight lifter). As for strollers, make them leave it downstairs and "pretend" like the guy downstairs won't steal the stroller.
2. no matter how big or small your second bedroom is, it will be too small once the kid comes. trust me on this.
3. i have seen how the Froggy boy lives. he will need at least 4 bedrooms in order to dump all his crap. otherwise there will be moldy ketchup bottles under the couch. and texas does not like moldy ketchup.
4. don't worry about 5-7 years from now. by that time, in theory, the frog will be Dr. Frog and will be the leading government expert when it comes to whatever the heck it is the Frog is studying (all i know is that he talks about chickens in pots). as such you will be able to afford that 3 bedroom you can only pass by and dream about.
5. in terms of living on a high floor with a newborn it all depends on whether you are willing to run into an elevator on shabbos after the old lady living next door heads down to get her mail ... if you plan on walking down the stairs you can leave the stroller downstairs before shabbos or you can force the Frog to carry it down when he leaves in the morning. that way, all you have to carry down is Junior (if you have twins this could be a problem).
6. as far as having kids ... please videotape the frog's first adult conversation with Junior ... if it is anything like the 3 page speech he sent me just before we both moved to DC which can be summed up in one sentence ("Will you be my roommate?"), the kid will be thumbing through his dictionary by the time he is 3.

6:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah - E, if you don't want the place, let us know about it. We can't find a reasonably priced 2Bd in the city to save our lives. Most are either the size of a 1BD (i.e. around 750-800 sq ft) or are located in a coop (yeah, just go try and resell THAT).

ac & rsc.

p.s. for the latest in real estate alarmism....http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/06/business/06leonhardt.html?em&ex=1165640400&en=0a3813e60fafffa4&ei=5087%0A

6:15 PM  

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